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wanderneverland:

"You think Stiles, skinny defenseless Stiles, is the Nogitsune”

                                                       the  h u m a n  protecting the  s u p e r n a t u r a l

But Derek knows that. He lies point blank to someone he knows is a threat to protect someone he knows has put his life on the line to protect his betas

(Because remember, when the Kanima goes all possessed in Raving, and Stiles shoves Erica and Isaac behind him and makes sure they get out of the room first?

And then remember that the Twins killed Boyd?)

Wolves are loyal, and Derek more than most.

(via sterekmeta)

ofresave:

Teen Wolf - STEREK AU - The Little Mermaid

In which Stiles is Ariel, and Derek is Prince Eric

wow!

Doing fairy tales better than OUAT since season one.

(via flower-of-the-desert)

moviecrush said: In this world of no homophobia JD says is presented, do you think that biphobia could still around and stigmatized?

athenadark:

I doubt it’s that simple really

I have a gay cousin and everyone knew by the time he was six, and we were warm and encouraging and let him know he could be whatever he was  going to be and we would love him regardless, i believe the term was one horned one eyed flying purple people eater was used, quickly with the coda, don’t eat people

but he still struggled to come out in an environment we did our best to be supportive in because unfortunately that’s how it works. It’s a struggle and it takes time and patience to come to terms with it, (he is now super happy and married to the man of his dreams - i feel so old)

Even doing our best to be supportive we couldn’t get past the block in his head that wanted to be normal. That’s how it is with Stiles, he has this weird codependency and tries to mould himself to what he thinks the people he loves want. This becomes a struggle the more involved in werewolf stuff he gets as he is caught by the genuine desire to do right, to save people, and being who his dad wants him to be - especially as his dad doesn’t understand.

Caitlyn was in no way stigmatised for her sexuality, any more than Lydia’s promiscuity at the start of season 3 was, it was shown but neither were shown negatively, even by the camera. It was shown to be their life and their decision

so it’s not biphobia at all, it’s more a kid trying to find where he belongs and still please the people close to him.

We talk a lot in the meta group about Scott’s distorted perception of normal, that his baseline is Jackson in season 1, and Stiles knows that, he probably also knows that it is distorted, but Stiles never calls Scott out for his bad behaviour, even at the start of season 4 when Scott kidnapped Liam all Stiles did was snark at him, so we have Stiles in 3a walking into fire (literally) for Scott and no one addressed the way Scott’s words clearly cut into him. How Scott, unintentionally, often says things that cut Stiles to the bone, and never realises or apologises. 

His dad does it too, coming from a standpoint of misunderstanding, which makes them great characters because you want to shake them and go don’t you see what you’re doing.

So we have a kid who is already ostracised from the vast majority of his peers  by his ADHD, who is caught in a life or death battle with the forces of whatever the hell they are, who is getting trapped into this vision of how other people see him, and it’s done with the knowledge that those other people are wrong, but not malicious.

If it was malicious it would edge into homophobia, but it’s not, it’s just not understanding and setting the baseline of normal wrong - which is in and of itself perfectly normal for a teenage boy to do.

So, no, I don’t think it’s biphobia at all, I think it’s just a boy struggling to identify his own sexuality because he’s surrounded by well meaning idiots whom he’s desperate to please.

A term I ran across studying mansfield park (of all things) very much applies to Stiles, he is “mercurial to the point of wishing his own character away”. Stiles would give up anything to please those he cares about, which is dangerous truth be told, but the first thing to go is his own personality and what he wants. Tragically we saw that in season 4 when he tried to complain to Scott about Malia, we don’t know what she was doing but Stiles didn’t like it and Scott congratulated him on getting the hot girl. His father accepted her as his girlfriend.

As I said, they mean well, they’re just wrong in how they see things, it’s not malicious so I can’t call it biphobia, just well, wrong.

Really good points, and I think you can boil it down to one interaction in the plot;

Outside Jungle, when the Sheriff says:

"No, you’re not", instead of "you better not be".

One is a (dismissive and obviously harmful, but not malicious) comment. The other would be a (homo+biphobic) threat.

Ok, but have you considered...

sam-sour-wolf:

  • The guy living below me has a really loud alarm clock that always wakes me up at the ass crack of dawn AU
  • I went to investigate a scream and found my neighbour standing on a chair to avoid a rat/cockroach/snake AU
  • My neighbour has a really squeaky bed and my bedroom is…

"I went to investigate a scream and found my neighbour standing on a chair to avoid a rat/cockroach/snake AU"

No but okay: Stiles, the newly minted Deputy, sleeping, hears a shriek in the dead of night from across the hall, so he flings himself out of bed, grabs his service revolver and sprints out the door.

He kicks open the door, only to see it’s a bachelor apartment with a bed tucked in the corner on the floor and his PAINFULLY hot neighbour is white as a ghost. He’s like “what happened WHAT HAPPENED” and the dude’s like “WHY DO YOU HAVE A GUN??!”

And Stiles is like “I heard a scream!” And hot neighbour dude is like “well fuck! I was, you know, having some me time, and a big-ass centipede ran out of the covers and over my dick!”

Which is when the adrenaline drops and Stiles realizes he’s wearing like, batman boxers and the dude’s wearing superman boxers on backwards and they kind of have a moment

And then the centipede streaks over Stiles’ foot and maybe he shoots a hole in the brick wall. Which of course would necessitate the sheriff’s department getting involved, which is when Erica shows up as backup and nearly pees herself laughing when she sees.

mimblewimble:

Three things cannot be long hidden:

The sun

The moon

And the amount of sexual tension between Stiles and Derek

So, the truth.

(via practicallypurple)

Anonymous said: I disagree with what otherbully1 said on your post about the fact that it's false that Gerard and the Darach had nothing to do with Scott. 1. Gerard used Scott to have access to Derek who was the Alpha, his end goal was Derek not Scott. 2. Jennifer was never interested in Scott. She kidnapped the parent of the trio so Derek will be force to work with her. Again what she wanted in the end was Derek not Scott. They both used Scott but Scott was never what they wanted. [1/2]

athenadark:

nagia-pronounced-neijia:

uswe:

kannbrown:

sublimeglass:

athenadark:

I will not talk about the Alpha Pack because I consider it’s still not clear what was their goal, but Deucalion still passed half of the season wanting Derek to joined them. So I think we can assume he wanted both Scott and Derek.

Have you read Harry Potter? In those books if Harry had stayed in his dorm with his head down Voldemort would be stuck in Quirrel’s head. Harry meant well but more often than not he served Voldemort, not because he wanted to, but because Voldemort was a sneaky bastard. He played Harry, and this is what happens with Scott.

Scott sees himself with a superhero origin story, something made worse by Stiles’ expectations of him, and Melissa’s great responsibility attitude, he thinks himself more important than the narrative makes him. He inserts himself into the narrative and often makes things much worse by trying to make them better.

He is trying to help, but doesn’t know what he’s doing.

Here’s my favourite example. In the Batman arc “No Man’s Land” there is an issue with Superman. Superman arrives in the ruins of Gotham (there was an earthquake and for reasons it’s cut off from the US) and tries to solve everything. Batman tells him he’s going to make it worse. Superman doesn’t listen, he goes to the power station and fixes it, restoring power to the city. Except this causes the gang war which was at a stalemate to reignite as they try to get control of the power station and the power it provides (as in control not electricity) and superman is forced to admit he made a mistake.

This is what Scott is doing, he goes in and goes I will fix this, and makes things worse because he doesn’t understand the complexities of the situation. Like arranging a meeting with the Alpha pack when he was a lowly Omega - that’s really arrogant and he’s lucky they didn’t just rip his throat out for the presumption, and we can guess that the reason they didn’t is because they knew Derek would show up. The only person who didn’t know Derek was going to show up was Scott. (If Deaton arranged this [likely] he played Scott like a fiddle.)

This happens again and again. The Nogitsune for example had no interest in Scott but Scott declared himself it’s enemy. By challenging the Nogitsune at Oak Creek, rather than leaving it to the Oni, when he went after Lydia, he led them in an unnecessary battle. The Nogitsune wasn’t threatening Lydia (which they didn’t know) and Lydia had tried to warn them off (which they did know). There are other instances of this, for example Scott’s proclamation in regards to killing Jackson takes place after he has seen Derek rip his throat out and the kanima gets back up. By kidnapping Jackson and taking him from Derek he gets to seem to be the hero but really allowed Jackson to kill 5 more people. If he had have given him to Derek the chances are he would have remained restrained until Peter provided the solution. Derek couldn’t kill him and told him as much.

I get so frustrated with Scott because I want him to live up to his own hype, but he really really doesn’t. He is the focus of the narrative so we expect it all to be about him, and we assume it is, but it’s not. It’s amazing how much clearer the narrative gets when you stop making it about Scott. It’s one of the really clever things about Scott, when we say davis is saying do not pay attention to the man behind the curtain - scott is the curtain

However it’s also realistic writing. 

The point is if Scott was the clear cut do-no-wrong Hero he would be the infallible Mary Sue. The point of Scott isn’t that he does things right, its just that he wants to. He wants to do the right thing and save his friends and also be able to live his life.

Which was also the point of Harry Potter. The reader had Harry’s POV, so they knew he didn’t always feel like the Big Hero although sometimes he tended to believe his own hype. He was just a person with the pressure and expectation, by those around him, that he was going to do the Right Thing and Save Everyone. (Remember how people in the book used to hate on Harry because they thought he thought he was better than them. And all Harry wanted was to fly a broomstick and be left alone - but nobody else was going to do anything, so he stepped up because he felt he had to. He would have failed without his friends and support system, which Scott also must rely on.)

The Hero isn’t the best person, in real life. They are just the person that everyone focuses their energy on - a leader, for good or bad. You get farther if you have someone lead and everyone else guides that person by influencing them and giving them their support. IE, Lydia helping Scott with her intelligence. Stiles helping Scott with his personal connection and deduction. Derek helping Scott with the physical werewolf and leadership questions. Deaton steering Scott with his background information and options. And Scott, having to accept all of that to move forward. 

The problem is being the Leader can give the Hero an inflated ego, and they can begin to think they don’t need their support (their Pack, essentially) which leads to their downfall.

The other problem is, Scott isn’t the one stepping up when others don’t. He’s one of the ones who doesn’t. When the Kanima was killing people, others were offering suggestions. Admittedly, he DID step up to say that the suggestions weren’t ones he preferred (involved killing the kanima), so they say, “Sure, ok…’ and then….nothing.

That’s the thing, he didn’t offer ANY other plan to stop the kanima, who was, after all, KILLING people.  And after he says not to, a whole lot of people died. The only reason the audience wasn’t up in arms over Scott’s inaction about this was that it was likely we knew the kanima, as one of the lead cast (whether Lydia or Jackson) and the deaths were ‘extras’, a bunch of people we, as an audience, didn’t know. If this was a traditional horror movie, we’d be yelling at the screen talking about how killing the guy who turns into a monster was, because killing one guy was better than dozens dying because of him.  But it’s a tv show and we develop more of a relationship and closeness to the main characters than in a horror movie, where we go IN knowing it’s likely that one of the cast is gonna be a ‘bad guy’. 

What has been happening is that the ‘Hermoines’ and ‘Rons’ have actually been coming up with AND executing the plans, trying to get Harry involved, and all Harry is doing is telling them what they shouldn’t do, but just NOT doing something isn’t enough, because people (innocents) are dying in droves due to not stopping the ‘bad thing’. 

The Hero doesn’t have to be all powerful, or perfect, but the point is that he’s generally the one who DOES ‘step up’ when others step back, even when they don’t want to. Not the one who has to be dragged in, kicking and screaming and only acting when it looks like the danger is about to get personal, no matter how many of the ‘faceless masses’ have already died. That’s more the….antihero (NOT the villain, to be clear). 

He comes in at the end, often did nothing that actually fixed the situation (Lydia fixed the Kanima, Stiles and Lydia were mostly responsible for stopping that. Scott’s plan with Gerard didn’t actually work. Jennifer was killed by Peter, and Deucalion, well, he got a stern talking to.. but he’s still out there).  But he still got credit for ALL of it. Hell, he got credit for Motel California and he had NOTHING to do with the people saved there, even by extension.

As long as his inaction isn’t dealt with, and he gets praise for, I don’t know, ‘just being you’, it’s going to be hard for him to step up and become the hero the narrative wants him to be. Unless it isn’t really setting him up for that, but for a fall (and maybe the one and only actual TW redemption arc). 

This meta’s been sitting in my drafts for ages. And, except for the parenthetical that implies that Allison didn’t have a real redemption arc, it’s really great meta. Even at the end of Season 4, Scott was mostly the victim, his greatest triumph overcoming his own brainwashing. Sure, it was the fact that he was gone that brought everyone else together, but a lot of his struggle was internal. Internal struggle is still super valid, and it was great to see his connection to Liam, to his pack, be an important component of his internal struggle, but Big Damn Heroes tend to fight external things.

Like, Scott was fighting Peter, but the fight wasn’t really about Peter. And the fight with Peter isn’t over, just temporarily shelved.

This is pretty on-the-nose for how I feel about Scott. (And I will argue that while Allison gets something like a redemption arc, she spent most of season 3 being either sorry but trying to stay unconnected or totally shelved. Thanks for that, Davis.)

My issue with Scott is that the narrative treats him like a hero — when he is basically the worst at protagonisting. Not only does he categorically reject any plan that would permanently solve the problem of the season, he turns around, makes things worse, and then gets praised by pretty much everyone in the narrative.

Like… what? I get that Stiles will pretty much always throw all his weight behind supporting Scott. But other characters (like, say, Lydia or Melissa or even the fucking Sheriff, since Deaton and Isaac never will, and like nobody cares what DEREK thinks) need to call attention to the bullshit. And they never do, because Jeff Davis would rather have shirtless make-out scenes and astonishingly well-adjusted feral children and weirdo dance parties than MAKE TIME TO FIX AN ONGOING PROBLEM IN HIS FUCKING STORY.

I do disagree with the last paragraph, you’re saying it’s an ongoing problem and I think it’s very much deliberate

it’s clearly intended because the people who see Scott’s bullshit are the ones who won’t call him on it - like Derek, Allison, but those who might, Stiles, Lydia, don’t and get the story second hand.

He has been called on his bullshit, not nearly enough, Derek did with the lie about Allison’s mother

but the whole show is about unreliable narration, who told these charactres what happened, lets say Scott told Stiles about the pez dispenser Derek atrocity- he’s going to believe him as Scott tells him a version in which Derek is the villain who was overcome.

That’s the point, it’s not a mistake, and it feeds into the concept of Scott going dark - it’s meant to break our hearts when he goes dark, because we beleive in Scott (hahahaha) because they do

"I get that Stiles will pretty much always throw all his weight behind supporting Scott."

See, and I think even this is going by the wayside these days. S4 was pretty clear on that.

Scott comes up with a “let’s save the day!” plan and Stiles looks at him and literally, canonically, goes “no no this is a bad idea”. Straight up.

stiles has always cheered Scott on, but it got his dad kidnapped and almost killed (cause if the baseball bat hadn’t held up that collapsing root chamber, they’d all be goo regardless of sacrifices or not, and how DID an ALUMINUM baseball bat hold up the weight of a collapsing structure anyways?), it got his dad hurt, it spiked the hospital bills through the roof.

And now, Liam can werewolf whisper.

I think season 5’ll be an interesting one to watch, if for no other reason than the trouble in paradise.

Anonymous said: I think that Jennifer and Cora in S3A were intended to NO HOMO the way Braeden and Malia are doing now—the plan was foiled by Adelaide's impending departure, so Stora wasn't pushed like Stalia and we got a grace period. Dethan and Caitlin were the crumbs we were supposed to be satisfied with. The timing is that TPTB freaked out after S2. First they tried to redirect and mollify us; then they finally dumped us. The Advocate article was face-saving hypocrisy.

sterekmeta:

ohno-zombees:

sterekmeta:

Interesting theory. 

Because if that’s how they are ‘no homo’ing’ things, it’s a really strange way to do it. 

I mean, yes, it does seem like Stiles was always destined to have a relationship with a girl- either Erica or Cora or Malia. That’s because he’s bisexual, and that means he sleeps with both boys and girls. We’ve had plenty (plenty) of evidence that first relationships never last on Teen Wolf, so the point is that maybe he’s going to start with a girl, but that doesn’t mean he’s going to stop there. 

And as for Derek- Really? Jennifer is the one who’s going to prove he’s straight? Jennifer? I mean, the actress is gorgeous, no denying that. But Jennifer was a psychotic killer who used a magical spell, powered by three virgin sacrifices, to make him fall for her, and then who’s spell was broken by Stiles. 

I don’t see that as being a convincing argument that he’s straight. A girl who has to bespell him to have him fall for her, and who comes out of the spell when his bf shows up? No. Not so much.

Braeden is actually a much better example of Derek being straight, except for all the rampant Sterek stuff going on all through the season, which turn her into a more convincing arguement for him being Pan. 

I’m just not buying it. 

Actually, Donno if it’s been mentioned, but I see people talking about Derek as a Pan/Dionysus analogue, and I wonder:

There’s that glowpaint party, with the “the DJ doesn’t take requests”/”he’ll take mine” interplay?

Pan/Dionysus as lord of the party? Doesn’t he do that (or something similar) more than once? I want to say in Raving.

Regardless, fun fact: Pan is where we get “panic” from. Shipper side of me dearly hopes we get Derek talking Stiles out of a panic attack (maybe about his actions as a nogitsune?)

But that’s just me daydreaming.

This is awesome and interesting and when I’m not trying to get 110 inches of sleeve into a 19 inch armseye, I’ll be happy to discuss it with you. (I don’t even)

But what I meant was Pan-sexual. Not Pan the deity. Sorry. 

No, no. For some weird reason, tumblr mobile fucked up my reblogs. I think that was directed to another member of the meta pack, and it got missent?

Ugh, this mobile app chaps my ass I stg.

Anonymous said: I think that Jennifer and Cora in S3A were intended to NO HOMO the way Braeden and Malia are doing now—the plan was foiled by Adelaide's impending departure, so Stora wasn't pushed like Stalia and we got a grace period. Dethan and Caitlin were the crumbs we were supposed to be satisfied with. The timing is that TPTB freaked out after S2. First they tried to redirect and mollify us; then they finally dumped us. The Advocate article was face-saving hypocrisy.

sterekmeta:

Interesting theory. 

Because if that’s how they are ‘no homo’ing’ things, it’s a really strange way to do it. 

I mean, yes, it does seem like Stiles was always destined to have a relationship with a girl- either Erica or Cora or Malia. That’s because he’s bisexual, and that means he sleeps with both boys and girls. We’ve had plenty (plenty) of evidence that first relationships never last on Teen Wolf, so the point is that maybe he’s going to start with a girl, but that doesn’t mean he’s going to stop there. 

And as for Derek- Really? Jennifer is the one who’s going to prove he’s straight? Jennifer? I mean, the actress is gorgeous, no denying that. But Jennifer was a psychotic killer who used a magical spell, powered by three virgin sacrifices, to make him fall for her, and then who’s spell was broken by Stiles. 

I don’t see that as being a convincing argument that he’s straight. A girl who has to bespell him to have him fall for her, and who comes out of the spell when his bf shows up? No. Not so much.

Braeden is actually a much better example of Derek being straight, except for all the rampant Sterek stuff going on all through the season, which turn her into a more convincing arguement for him being Pan. 

I’m just not buying it. 

Actually, Donno if it’s been mentioned, but I see people talking about Derek as a Pan/Dionysus analogue, and I wonder:

There’s that glowpaint party, with the “the DJ doesn’t take requests”/”he’ll take mine” interplay?

Pan/Dionysus as lord of the party? Doesn’t he do that (or something similar) more than once? I want to say in Raving.

Regardless, fun fact: Pan is where we get “panic” from. Shipper side of me dearly hopes we get Derek talking Stiles out of a panic attack (maybe about his actions as a nogitsune?)

But that’s just me daydreaming.

Anonymous said: Do you think that it will have any consequences that Stiles' current body is a demonical creation?

darachmoon:

Honestly, i’m not sure.

But i do find it fascinating that a lot of the characters on Teen Wolf has experienced transformations of some kind that also involves their bodies.

  • Werewolf transformations - bitten, not born - Scott, Isaac, Erica, Boyd, Liam
  • Kanima transformation that again went to werewolf - Jackson
  • Werejaguar, bitten not born - Kate
  • Full wolf transformation - Derek
  • Demonic possession with body clone - Stiles
  • Banshee transformation triggered by bite - Lydia

What seems to be the common denominator is that these transformations seem to involve some sort of power-up. Like Derek said - they evolve. The werecreatures get speed, power, better senses, Lydia leveled up to geiger teller for death and we’ve yet to see what the full wolf transformation might bring for Derek.

The demonic possession of Stiles did leave him with a new body albeit identical to the one he had. But other than that he on the surface doesn’t seem to have been given any new powers. But i do think the arc he went through managed to fast-track the spark we’ve seen hints of since season 2 at least. In my opinon the examples of stiles being something has escalated this season.

(for regular readers i do apologize for listing this once again - but Stiles Is Something (SIS) is my mantra and i do tend to rant about this at every opportunity)

  • He fixed his jeep without knowing how. Someone with a bit of mechanical knowhow told me the part he’s holding up and is hoping “isn’t important” is in fact vital to making the car run. Still moments later we see them speeding along the dusty roads towards the church.
  • He held down an out of control werecoyote on the full moon, and managed to calm her down and anchor her.
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  • He totally killed the chemist in 4x07
  • He broke free of the restraints in Eichen House
  • He locked the door at the hospital
  • He held back a werecoyote trying to hulk!smash the deadpool computer
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  • He rooted around in shards of glass without getting a single cut
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  • He managed to get a phone call in the middle of the Mexican desert in a deserted town and below a church when there was no service
  • He fell down the stairs at Scott’s house without getting hurt
  • He held down Liam in the shower with Scott and Brett at Deaton’s with Derek. He also effortlessly managed to hold the lacrosse stick steady when Coach was tugging at it with two hands.

And in addition there is also the possible connection between stiles and a third eye. And trepanation was first introduced to us when Stiles was possessed and in Eichen house - where dr valack also is.

So, i do believe Stiles has also “evolved” but that he hasn’t fully embraced this yet and is trying to keep it to himself.

So what are you now, Stiles?

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But whether the fact that his body is a demonical creation as you say will have any other consequences are still up in the air. And it might depend on who created it - was it the nogitsune=bandages? In that case it was a helpful deity (most likely created by Noshiko) that despite his creepy visage was there to defeat Void and in the process help stiles. Or was it Void=Fly? In that case, i’d be a bit more worried because i have a feeling we haven’t seen the last of that, and it is everything but benign.

Or maybe Stiles did it himself? I’ve been arguing hard that he is Something after all. perhaps Scott’s roar did free him of the possession and created the belief he needed to break free - literally - by splitting himself.

Not to mention, there’s the fact that when the chemist places the gun against Stiles’ forehead, it directly mimics the placement of Valack’s (?) trepanation.

I study a combat art that teaches gun evasion maneuvers and we’re always taught from a kneeling and/or facing-away position, because facing your opponent, the way the Chemist did, is so easy to escape from that you might as well not bother wasting the bullet.
There’s a reason “execution style” is from BEHIND.

Davis writes crime shows as his big boy writing; let’s not pretend he doesn’t know that.

So why this very deliberate stylistic choice? Yes, we can see Stiles face off against a madman, but the placement of the gun just kind of tickles at me a bit.

It’s probably just seeing a pattern where one doesn’t exist, but given the pretty exhaustive evidence of Stiles pulling off the (literally) impossible, I can’t help but dream.

And if nothing else, the power of Stiles’ belief in that Jeep keeps it going. I don’t even think that thing runs on gasoline any more.