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teenwolf:

WHO IS THE BENEFACTOR?

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Just spitballing here, but does anyone else notice that Stiles’ reflection almost perfectly matches the outline of the Benefactor figure?

He was the villain last season, is it possible the Nogitsune isn’t quite done with him yet?

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auntpol:

He’s like, sleeping beauty. Or maybe more like Snow White.

It’s interesting that people are equating Derek with fairy tale princesses in this shot, because what comes to mind to me is Mary, Mother of Jesus.
No, really.
My grandmother collected Madonna figurines (among other things), and while the majority were posed holding baby Jesus or with her hands steepled before her in prayer, the rest were posed like this.




It’s a common enough depiction that I kinda don’t know what to do with the parallels. I’ve seen several Mary Magdalens in the same pose but honestly could only look at so many religious icons before I got bored.

I think you’re on to something with this. I’m pretty sure S4 is making references to the Bible too. My thoughts aren’t really shaping into a whole meta yet, but I might post it anyway now you’ve posted this.

From what I remember of my Catchecism, the Holy Mother goes by many names. With the Infant, she’s invoked as María, Madre de Dios. With her her hands folded in prayer, she becomes Madonna, Queen of Heaven. With her hands crossed on her chest, however, she becomes María Dolorosa, Our Lady of Sorrows. In this guise, she represents the seven sorrows of her life, and more broadly, her sorrows for the wounded and lost. Curiously, she is also the patron saint of the abused, especially those having experienced intimate partner abuse. It’s certainly a little curious that Derek Hale is here arranged in one of the most recognizable motifs in Western religious iconography.

cupidsbower:

jehnt:

auntpol:

He’s like, sleeping beauty. Or maybe more like Snow White.

It’s interesting that people are equating Derek with fairy tale princesses in this shot, because what comes to mind to me is Mary, Mother of Jesus.

No, really.

My grandmother collected Madonna figurines (among other things), and while the majority were posed holding baby Jesus or with her hands steepled before her in prayer, the rest were posed like this.

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It’s a common enough depiction that I kinda don’t know what to do with the parallels. I’ve seen several Mary Magdalens in the same pose but honestly could only look at so many religious icons before I got bored.

I think you’re on to something with this. I’m pretty sure S4 is making references to the Bible too. My thoughts aren’t really shaping into a whole meta yet, but I might post it anyway now you’ve posted this.

From what I remember of my Catchecism, the Holy Mother goes by many names.

With the Infant, she’s invoked as María, Madre de Dios. With her her hands folded in prayer, she becomes Madonna, Queen of Heaven.

With her hands crossed on her chest, however, she becomes María Dolorosa, Our Lady of Sorrows. In this guise, she represents the seven sorrows of her life, and more broadly, her sorrows for the wounded and lost.
Curiously, she is also the patron saint of the abused, especially those having experienced intimate partner abuse.

It’s certainly a little curious that Derek Hale is here arranged in one of the most recognizable motifs in Western religious iconography.

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ohno-zombees:

ohno-zombees:

Stiles Stilinski, Lying and Werewolf Lie Detectors

wolvesofinnistrad:

  • Stiles Stilinski is confident he can lie to a werewolf and/or tell one that his entire family is dead
  • Stiles Stilinski can watch another werewolf lie and not give off any…

That worried me as well!

I mean, if he was aware, and is still capable of seeming so untroubled by it, then I wonder if he’s sort of already going darker.

And let’s remember, Stiles is plenty dark already. He comes up with the idea of going into the woods to find half a body as early as the first episode. This isn’t a particularly ethically-equipped character.

So a Stiles who has had a millennia-old chaos spirit living in his head for however many months might be considerably darker after the fact.

I think we’re going to see a Stiles who might well wonder why he’s alive at all later on in the season. I mean, that clip where he gets a gun placed to his forehead? He doesn’t seem too shook-up by that. Maybe that’s because he thinks he deserves it?

Anonymous said: So people keep saying the Hoechlin PTSD thing, but I've never seen a source. I'd LOVE if he actually said that, but it seems too blunt for how he usually phrases things. Is there an actual video of this?

sterekmeta:

ohno-zombees:

brandonrose1992:

teenwolfgossip:

I’ve seen the video of it and I’d love if someone would dig it up and send in the link for me.

-E

I always interpreted that as him saying that they wouldn’t be able to do any sort of justice to Derek’s PTSD because of the time constraints on the show. They wouldn’t have enough time to do it with the amount of respect it deserves. Even if it’s not blatantly stated they have done a really good job of working it into the subtext, both with Hoechlin’s portrayal of Derek and the things written into the script about the character, like the fact that he isolates himself in a loft, doesn’t have many personal belongings, ect. I guess the big problem is that if it were blatantly stated there are a lot of people it could help. The unfortunate fact is, is that Teen Wolf is a plot driven show; not a character driven one. They don’t have the time to explore the characters in that much depth.

Chiming in as someone with PTSD, whether Hoechlin says he’s deliberately portraying it or not, he’s definitely doing a damn good job off the record.

Impulse control and a lack of strategic thinking are both hallmarks of the disease (not surprising when your brain’s switch is forever flipped to “HOLYFUCKINGSHITDEFCON1LEVEL6KAIJU”), as is disassociation and deliberate isolation.
His trust issues are legendary (as are his absolutely monumental fuck-ups, also not surprising given the circumstances of some of his PTSD (because Derek Hale suffers from complex PTSD, due to the fire and the sexual assault(s).).

Basically, I watch this show for him, because whether Hoechlin intended to or not, he’s actually managed to portray one of the most nuanced depictions of a PTSD sufferer I’ve seen in modern media.

Agreed. (Also have the PTSD club members card) 

One of the things that makes TW amazing is it takes Hoechlin, who’s the big huge musclely Alpha Male type guy, who you expect to be a save-the-day hero type, and turned him into a victim. A repeated victim- of sexual assault! Talk about turning a trope on its head!

And it could have gone so wrong so easily, and Hoechlin is just flawless. He doesn’t pretty it up. He doesn’t make it what it’s not. He just plays it straight and it’s beautiful to watch.

It’s another brilliant case of the show SHOWING vs. TELLING. Anyone paying attention can see that Derek does have PTSD, but the show never even comes close to saying the words. 

(And ain’t that such a fun club to be a member of. I’m sorry to hear we’re both paying dues, hon, that sucks.)

But you’re right. If they’d written it into the script, I’d like it less. Most PTSD sufferers don’t go around on the day to day talking about it; it shows through our behaviour, our actions and reactions to stimuli in our environment.

It affects how we interact, how we hold ourselves and how we struggle for control. Hoechlin manages to pull it off beautifully. Derek is angry, he can be aggressive, and he can appear emotionally attached. All of those are pretty classic characteristics of it.
I’m my actually surprised that it’s Stiles who serves as a point of contact with him (an anchor, if you will). I’ve always wondered if Stiles doesn’t have an undiagnosed case himself. His nightmares, his deliberate avoidance and dissembling, the inability to express his emotions and his use of humor as a shield, his //panic attacks//. PTSD from watching the painful and ugly death of a parent who no longer remembers you, and being the only one there when she did die?
That’s absolutely logical.

Seriously, I’m glad they’re going with this narrative, and I’m glad that by a trick of fate or the good grace of the writer’s room, they gave those arcs to the two cast members who I’d trust to carry nuance and subtlety. (Which isn’t to say I don’t love Posey, or Sharman or Reed or Roden, but their acting styles are a bit too external, as opposed to the aggressively internal portrayal of Stiles and Derek. They’re both incredibly cerebral and restrained, and I think those are nuances best suited to O’Brien and Hoechlin’s acting styles.)

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ohno-zombees:

Stiles Stilinski, Lying and Werewolf Lie Detectors

wolvesofinnistrad:

  • Stiles Stilinski is confident he can lie to a werewolf and/or tell one that his entire family is dead
  • Stiles Stilinski can watch another werewolf lie and not give off any indication of abnormal…

Excellent point!

Willow’s “anchor” was her family and her love for Tara. Take that away, take
/Tara/ away, and she goes dark and turns people inside out (and if that wasn’t your favourite scene of the series, I think you’re fibbing).

I’m VERY worried that we’re going to see the Sheriff die, because that’s probably going to be the point of no return. It’d likely serve as a catalyst, though whether for magic or just a Stiles with nothing to lose (Unfettered, as a trope, is rarely a positive!), either way it sucks hard.

What interests me is the fact that as of last week, we now see a counterbalance. Stiles had saved Cora’s life and protected her; this is Derek’s only remaining relative and arguably the only person in the world he cares about. Now we see Derek save the Sheriff, again, this is the man I’m quite convinced Stiles would kill for, the man he nearly kills himself to protect. That’s going to mean something, I’m sure of it. (Or else, why include it in an episode that’s quite short on time?)

I hope that Stiles never goes dark. I’m quite convinced that the havoc he’d wreak would make the Nogitsune’s bullshit pale in comparison.

Anonymous said: So people keep saying the Hoechlin PTSD thing, but I've never seen a source. I'd LOVE if he actually said that, but it seems too blunt for how he usually phrases things. Is there an actual video of this?

brandonrose1992:

teenwolfgossip:

I’ve seen the video of it and I’d love if someone would dig it up and send in the link for me.

-E

I always interpreted that as him saying that they wouldn’t be able to do any sort of justice to Derek’s PTSD because of the time constraints on the show. They wouldn’t have enough time to do it with the amount of respect it deserves. Even if it’s not blatantly stated they have done a really good job of working it into the subtext, both with Hoechlin’s portrayal of Derek and the things written into the script about the character, like the fact that he isolates himself in a loft, doesn’t have many personal belongings, ect. I guess the big problem is that if it were blatantly stated there are a lot of people it could help. The unfortunate fact is, is that Teen Wolf is a plot driven show; not a character driven one. They don’t have the time to explore the characters in that much depth.

Chiming in as someone with PTSD, whether Hoechlin says he’s deliberately portraying it or not, he’s definitely doing a damn good job off the record.

Impulse control and a lack of strategic thinking are both hallmarks of the disease (not surprising when your brain’s switch is forever flipped to “HOLYFUCKINGSHITDEFCON1LEVEL6KAIJU”), as is disassociation and deliberate isolation.
His trust issues are legendary (as are his absolutely monumental fuck-ups, also not surprising given the circumstances of some of his PTSD (because Derek Hale suffers from complex PTSD, due to the fire and the sexual assault(s).).

Basically, I watch this show for him, because whether Hoechlin intended to or not, he’s actually managed to portray one of the most nuanced depictions of a PTSD sufferer I’ve seen in modern media.

deanmonswinchester said: Do you guys have a meta theory on why Stiles' piece in the title sequence is the only one without dust or glass or other stuff floating around? (Usually the title sequence has hints on what happens in the season right?)

sterekmeta:

ohno-zombees:

sterekmeta:

I know people have been discussing it. I’ve been working and sewing, so I’ve not had too much time to chat lately, so I don’t know what the current theory is.

Mine is that it’s because of what Stiles is. If we go with the theory that Stiles is fae or fairy, which I think he is, when we recognize that Stiles, like all fairies are made up not of earth like man, but of spirt or ether. Fairies are sometimes referred to as the ‘Folk of the Air’. 

Now, we’ve been getting plenty of hints that this season is going to resolve what Stiles is- both supernaturally and also sexually. The opening sequence could be referencing that.

Or it could be something totally different. But that’s my guess.

You could also argue that the lack of substance is Void.

After all, the grass and the dirt are all floating in air, on the breeze and the wind currents.

But air doesn’t exist in a Void, so it could be symbolizing that Stiles’ arc is still tied with the Nogitsune’s, if nothing but working his way through it.

That’s especially likely after the line last week, where it’s implied that Stiles was a) aware of the possession and b) not entirely adverse to the feelings of power.

(Correct me if I’m paraphrasing wrong, but that’s how I interpreted his comment to Malia about control while in the basement.)

Maybe that’s why?

Oh, that’s good too. 

See, this is why this is a great fandom! Because it’s a really good show with lots of things to talk about and think about, and a fandom that’s actually willing to discuss it.

Holy shit, I wasn’t expecting to get reblogged!

But yeah, I mean, I hope that’s where they’re taking it. I mean, the kid had a dementia scare, a legit demonic possession, and killed people (incl a good friend of his and the love of his brother’s life). If he wasn’t suffering from the ramifications of the possession, it’d be bad story-writing.

In any case, though, I think it works. The title sequence is always relevant. But whereas in S1-3, we see everyone else in ichor and that weird black blood thing, we see Derek in ash, and Stiles in light. Derek throws the ash off, Stiles walks into the darkness away from the light of the jeep.

So that’s obviously foreshadowing. But now everything is covered in ash, except for Stiles, who instead is untouched.
"Calm in the centre of the storm"? Or no air in a vacuum?

Either way, it’s probably not good, especially given that this season is all about Air.

deanmonswinchester said: Do you guys have a meta theory on why Stiles' piece in the title sequence is the only one without dust or glass or other stuff floating around? (Usually the title sequence has hints on what happens in the season right?)

sterekmeta:

I know people have been discussing it. I’ve been working and sewing, so I’ve not had too much time to chat lately, so I don’t know what the current theory is.

Mine is that it’s because of what Stiles is. If we go with the theory that Stiles is fae or fairy, which I think he is, when we recognize that Stiles, like all fairies are made up not of earth like man, but of spirt or ether. Fairies are sometimes referred to as the ‘Folk of the Air’. 

Now, we’ve been getting plenty of hints that this season is going to resolve what Stiles is- both supernaturally and also sexually. The opening sequence could be referencing that.

Or it could be something totally different. But that’s my guess.

You could also argue that the lack of substance is Void.

After all, the grass and the dirt are all floating in air, on the breeze and the wind currents.

But air doesn’t exist in a Void, so it could be symbolizing that Stiles’ arc is still tied with the Nogitsune’s, if nothing but working his way through it.

That’s especially likely after the line last week, where it’s implied that Stiles was a) aware of the possession and b) not entirely adverse to the feelings of power.

(Correct me if I’m paraphrasing wrong, but that’s how I interpreted his comment to Malia about control while in the basement.)

Maybe that’s why?

Derek Hale saves Sheriff Stilinski.

And if you don’t think that won’t mean the world to Stiles, we’re watching different shows.

But then again, Stiles protected Cora, so…

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